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1026r LOSS OF POWER UPDATE

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#1 ·
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Hello,
Two weeks ago I took my tractor to dealer to get it fixed. Dealer said tree pt hitch valve was by passing, will fix. Yesterday I go to dealer. The dealer did not adjust setting on control lever. Tractor is still having the same issues with PTO. Dealer says eveyrthing is ok even though the noises are getting louder. Tractor is still at dealer. I called JD customer service and asked if the dealer could give me a replacement until my tractor could be repaired and I did not get a response. I have owned the tractor for a year. It has 47 hours on it and it has been in the shop for over 2 months for various problems.
 
#3 ·
1026r update

I honestly don't know. The dealer and JD Field rep has informed me I have to Live with it. The field rep gave me a story unbelievable. The noise is coming from the valve which operates the power steering, and the hydraulics for the attachments. The oil has been supposedly changed three times. I believe they found water in the filter the last time. I now have to run the tractor at a minimum of 2000rpms. If you do not let the tractor warm up for 10 minutes you can hear the valve trying to keep going on and off and the rear pump is louder than the engine at pto speed. I am trying to find someone who has a 2012 1026R who lives within 60 miles of Albany so I could come visit and listen to see if their machine is making the same noise.
 
#6 ·
Last summer and fall, I was having the same loss of power as you described. I had been noticing the increasing whine of the rear pump, then in Nov, I lost several quarts of hydro oil through the rear pump seal overnight . At 110 hours, the dealer picked it up, and replaced the rear pump.

No more loss of power issues, and the rear pump is quiet, top speed has increased, and the steering is more responsive.
 
#9 ·
1026r update ii

Hello,
I would like to say thanks for the help. The dealer has replaced the metal screen in the rear end. John Deere has a PIP on any 1026R which has the green or regular color hydraulic oil. I have been told it is because the orifices in the screen were to small not allowing the fluid to go through properly. The dealer also adjusted the rocker arm valve. The tractor is working better. I am concerned about my pump. Has anyone notice right after you operate the tractor the hydraulic level on the dip sticks reads add more fluid. The dip stick reads oil level is above full before I start. My rocker arm valve also is pulsating. I have been informed that is not correct. I was wondering, does any ones 3pt hitch arms settle down over night? I was happy able to be able remove the 15 inches of snow from my drive way. :hi:
 
#10 ·
Hello,
I would like to say thanks for the help. The dealer has replaced the metal screen in the rear end. John Deere has a PIP on any 1026R which has the green or regular color hydraulic oil. I have been told it is because the orifices in the screen were to small not allowing the fluid to go through properly. The dealer also adjusted the rocker arm valve. The tractor is working better. I am concerned about my pump. Has anyone notice right after you operate the tractor the hydraulic level on the dip sticks reads add more fluid. This is normal. It takes a while for the fluid to drain back down to the bottom. The dip stick reads oil level is above full before I start. A little above the add mark will be ok. Anything over about 1/4" after the tractor has been sitting for 1/2 hour or overnight needs to be drained down IMHO. But if you have a loader or other hydraulic implements, those could also affect your reading. Lower the 3PH and the loader to the ground before reading the dipstick. My rocker arm valve also is pulsating. I have been informed that is not correct. This is not right. You need to talk to your service dept to get this remedied. I was wondering, does any ones 3pt hitch arms settle down over night? This would be an acceptable amount of leakdown. Although it's much better to lower it down after you are done operating the tractor. This way you can't accidentally lower it or something on to something, say your foot. I was happy able to be able remove the 15 inches of snow from my drive way. :hi:
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#12 ·
1026R Still not Fixed

Since I wrote the last update. I am still having problems. I talked to the dealer service mgr. and he told me there is nothing wrong and informed me I was not able to take it to another JD dealer. Its a shame when one person owns all the dealerships around the area you live in. Now when I get off the seat, while the tractor is running you can hear my rocker shaft valve make loud noises. the tractor doesn't want to move unless it is over 2000 rpms and in reverse it moves, but vibrates horribly. I am cannot believe what is happening. Would any one like to purchase a 1026R with low hours.
 
#14 ·
Since I wrote the last update. I am still having problems. I talked to the dealer service mgr. and he told me there is nothing wrong and informed me I was not able to take it to another JD dealer. Its a shame when one person owns all the dealerships around the area you live in. Now when I get off the seat, while the tractor is running you can hear my rocker shaft valve make loud noises. the tractor doesn't want to move unless it is over 2000 rpms and in reverse it moves, but vibrates horribly. I am cannot believe what is happening. Would any one like to purchase a 1026R with low hours.
There seems to be many dealers in your area. SCHENECTADY NY 123067513 seems to be a stand alone. That is just total BS that you cannot take it anywhere else. Something is WAY WRONG. Got to johndeere.com and search for dealers. Would be worth getting a different opinion, before your warranty runs out. Squeaky wheel gets the oil. Don't let them give you this BS. Good luck with your plight.
Bill
 
#13 ·
Time to contact JD corporate.....
 
#15 ·
I bought a1023e this time last year . I now work at a dealership and my 1023e has pto issues. I took it to work one day and found out that all the 1series and some 3series has the same issue my tractor has. Says that the engine causes a vibration making the pto sound like it has a bearing going bad. Idle up to 2000rpms and it goes away.great tractor but kinda disappointed that this is the solution but no repair. Less then 25 hrs rock shaft and dash was replaced. Hope this helps and if any one has got there pto issue fixed please let me know and what got done .
 
#16 ·
Just curious, but what PTO attachments do you have that need to be run below 2000 rpm? Rated PTO is around 3200.

Sometimes, especially on a small 3 cylinder diesel, vibrations are really hard to get rid of. Harmonics. I believe that dieselshadow is quite knowledgable on that subject.


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#17 · (Edited)
Tiller, post hole digger, etc. why do you think it needs to spin max speed?

Rated rpm notch on the tach just means implement is turning at 540 rpm when matched.

Jim
 
#19 ·
PTO driven implements are geared to run at their peak of efficiency when ran at the rated speed. A lot of times it's also a lot easier on the tractor if it's run at the rated speed as well such as when tilling.

Of course this is not absolute. Post hole digging was a good example.


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#18 ·
"The Three Cylinder Buzz". Also common on BSA and Triumph 750cc motorcycles "back in the day". 3 in-line seems like a crime against rotating nature.
 
#21 ·
Another thought with tilling too. If you hit something at 540 it's going to be a lot more of an impact than if you're at idle. I feel if it's not bogging down anything then you're good to go, gears don't know how fast they're turning. Now if you need the power cause it's bogging down, spin her up and get into the power band. Not arguing with that.

See this all the time off-road, speed breaks parts.

Jim